Re: Election outcome


Author:squarooticus
Homepage:http://www.krose.org/~krose/
Date:2020-11-09 15:19:59
In Reply To:Re: Election outcome by Russ
Views:61
You're ignoring the effects that gerrymandering has on policy.
No, I'm not. People overestimate the reach of gerrymandering.

Both parties gerrymander where they have control. If gerrymandering were eliminated everywhere at once, it's unlikely the balance of power would change much. In the current 2019 House term, Democrats hold 232 seats out of 435, or about 53%, which is very similar to the overall split between Democratic-leaning voters and GOP-leaning voters. Almost the entire effect of gerrymandering is to make House seats non-competitive, not to impact the overall balance of power in the House.
And that a significant percentage of Americans support some form of healthcare safety net, not necessarily a single-payer system,but an option. I'm one of them, especially when it comes to children.
You're making my point. Yes, a large percentage of Americans support universal health care access. A much smaller percentage support single-payer. That's my point: the more extreme position is not popular enough to win a majority.
... and remember, this poll occurred before hundreds of thousands of Americans died because of . . . even poorer healthcare.
I don't know how you can say this with a straight face. Here's some data for you:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

US results are worse than most of our peer countries, but not dramatically so, even though those other countries have universal health care access. So I conclude that our private, non-universal insurance model didn't have much to do with how the pandemic is playing out here: rather, outcomes seem to have been dominated by (1) the properties of the virus itself and (2) early action taken by eye-on-the-ball governments before the virus was able to take hold. Anywhere the virus took hold has been on a similar trajectory ever since.

Additionally, recognize that the US is a country in which COVID response became a partisan political issue, with lots of people staking out an anti-mask "Muh freedom!" position, something that isn't true to anywhere near the same degree elsewhere. And yet our outcomes aren't dramatically worse than our peers.

Basically, all this to say "stop fitting the news to to your narrative". Instead, look at the data and see where it leads.

"You bandits don't just die quickly, I mean, example: This one guy in New Haven, cities burning, people dying left and right, yada yada yada, and this jackhole rushes me with a spoon. A frickin' spoon. And I'm just, dying laughing right? So I just scoop out his eyeballs with it and his kids are like, 'waaah', he can't see where he's going, bumping into stuff, maybe you just had to be there. Anyway, the moral is, you're a total bitch." - Handsome Jack

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